Blood test of Hygetropin

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  • #2306

    PhilipP
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    So well, hi everyone, as the title says, I have blood tested hygetropin and now I came here trying to help you by letting you know what are the results. Very well, I have injected 10 iu yesterday morning at 6: 50 AM (exactly, I looked at the clock) and I have got the blood drawn at 9: 43 AM (again, exactly, as I have been watching it so I looked at the clock), which is 7 minutes below the 3 hours after the injection. Very well, I have got the results from the blood test by mail a few hours ago and now decided to make this post. I have to say that I have used the exact same lab that I have used where I have established my base values a couple of months ago. A little disclaimer here: I have used GHRH/ GHRP + MK 677 for approximately 2 months on and off and then I have started to inject the Hygetropin at 5 iu per night, 5 nights before I have had the blood test. And so, the igf 1 increase is, of course, not ONLY because of the 10 iu injection that I have had that morning, but it is a combination of that injection with the rest that I had prior that day so don’t think the values are from a solely shot. So here’s the deal: base values where: GH 0,08 ng/ mL (up to 3) and my IGF – 1 level was 201 ng/ mL (89 – 351) and the post injection values got as high as: GH being 29,3 ng/ mL (as said a bit earlier, it should be up to 3) and IGF 1 level should be anywhere between 89 and 351 and my result was 392,7 ng/ mL.
    The first and the most important conclusion here is: Hygetropin it is a real deal and I have, luckily, got real HGH. the second conclusion is that I am honestly somewhat pissed. I know you think that this is strange but I have been hoping that the results would come back low, as I was not really wanting to believe that it has been real HGH which has been making me feel the way that it did (pretty shitty).
    For those who are wondering… I am sleeping so so bad on the HGH, it really makes me fear the next night that’s coming. I am having the best dreams, they really seem to be lasting for entire hours, however then I am waking up as if I had only got just one hour of sleep or maximum 2 while in reality I’ve slept for entire night. That’s one very strange side effect (or whatever it is) since most people reported to have GOOD night sleep. Another thing which made me feel crappy is that my muscles are sore, other is that I am not able to focus, as if my focusing abilities disappeared as well as my eyes just keep shutting during the day (feeling tired).
    The usual side effect of carpel tunnel syndrome however is completely bearable unlike what other people described. At least for me. I do get a few stings or so in the fingers, but that’s nothing to be afraid of and that’s absolutely nothing similar to what like people has described when they were being awoken at night because of how bad it was. Not for me.
    Other thing to mention here (what changes I noticed) is that I started to sweat A LOT during the day now, and that’s also especially since it is summer around here and the temperatures are really really high…
    But I do have good effects as well, or in fact good EFFECT because it seems to be only one real good effect which is that my muscles are now full as hell and my veins are really bulging like crazy, nothing like they did before. There’s also something else but I am not sure… I am talking about the thing that I have got a little bit of an euphoric feeling during the day.
    Anyway, in the end, I still don’t actually like the overall effects I got (do you think it could be because of the dosage? Should I lower it?) and that’s why, now that I wrote this review here, I am going to discontinue the HGH for now and I hoping to go back on peptides, I have to confess that I truly feel a lot much better on them. Hopefully this would be helpful.

    #2307

    SCANAST
    Participant

    Thank you very much for taking your time writing this and thanks a lot for the blood work results here.. also must say that I am sorry about the sides that you’ve got. Haven’t you tried lower doses? You asked about the lower doses but why you just don’t try them (lower doses) and see? Or they still suck?

    #2308

    PhilipP
    Participant

    No, I have not tried lower doses and that’s why I put that question there… I haven’t because I am under the impression (please tell me… is it false or no?) that if I am going to inject anything that is below 5 iu per day then I might as well go with the peptides with the MK. Or, say 2 or 3 IU a day might be doing a good job too?
    What do you think… is 2 iu HGH more potent than 200 mcg CJC with 200 mcg Ipam with 25 mg of MK?? I will appreciate any of your ideas.

    #2309

    Fighad
    Participant

    Well, I’m not an expert but it does seems like nearly any levels would have at least some benefits meaning 2 IU a day still should do at least something, however then again, I am not an HGH expert at all.. in fact, it is quite the opposite of an HGH expert (HGH newbie more…)
    I wish I knew… however that would seem to be quite a question for somebody who is having more experience on this so I hope somebody with more knowledge and experience with chime in answering your questions. Good luck!

    #2310

    MapleB
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    [quote] A little disclaimer here: I have used GHRH/ GHRP + MK 677 for approximately 2 months on and off and then I have started to inject the Hygetropin at 5 iu per night

    then I might as well go with the peptides with the MK. [/quote]
    oh wow… you are feeling fine on the mk?? OMG… your body seemingly is very different from mine… I’ve used that crap for a while but it had me falling asleep while walking and I so I have been taking it before going to sleep and, obviously, I’ve slept 😀 LOL

    well, perfect example of the low dose GH, Seth Feroce is making a very good and big point in one of his videos that he has turned pro on 3 iu GH. Also there is Dave Palumbo who had a video where he is talking about the most anyone needs being anywhere between 2 and 4 iu as you can see, not 5 iu or more. Those people do have some ideas about GH and they are talking about 3 iu a day plus or minus so if you haven’t given a shot to 2-3 IU a day of GH (in case you are really that intolerant to GH side effects) then it really might be a good idea.
    PS. Hopefully you know who those guys are.

    #2314

    PhilipP
    Participant

    *oh wow… you are feeling fine on the mk?? OMG… your body seemingly is very different from mine… I’ve used that crap for a while but it had me falling asleep while walking and I so I have been taking it before going to sleep and, obviously, I’ve slept 😀 LOL *
    No, in fact, I am feeling like utter crap while on the MK as well, I don’t feel in anyway good while taking it. the only things that have made me feel good are the CJC + Ipam and that’s it! and if you ask me why do I keep on using MK… well, the only single reason why I am still throwing the MK in from times to times (occasionally) it is because I really love the appetite increase I get from using it. otherwise I would not use it anymore, as I said, because I am feeling like utter crap while taking it.

    #2315

    MarkuS
    Participant

    Hi there everyone… I just cannot pass by without answering to this: “Well, I’m not an expert but it does seems like nearly any levels would have at least some benefits meaning 2 IU a day still should do at least something, however then again, I am not an HGH expert at all.. in fact, it is quite the opposite of an HGH expert (HGH newbie more…)
    I wish I knew… however that would seem to be quite a question for somebody who is having more experience on this so I hope somebody with more knowledge and experience with chime in answering your questions. Good luck! “
    Especially when it was said that it is a question for someone with more experience and I do have a bit of experience here and so, if you ask my opinion I would tell you that GH use can be used with very much success starting at just 1 IU a day up to like 15 IU or so per day but it greatly depends on what your goals are.
    With this said, I am having no ideas why would someone think that anything that’s taken under the dosage of 5 iu per day it is not worth it and won’t do anything and to use peptides. People often misunderstand it and take them as medications when a little dosage can’t help then you just throw in some more and everything’s fine. this is not quite your usual medication and a, say, 2 iu a day can perfectly help, but it greatly depend on what your goals are.

    #2316

    SCANAST
    Participant

    Hey there thank you very much for your response as I very much appreciate it. I’m talking about this response: Especially when it was said that it is a question for someone with more experience and I do have a bit of experience here and so, if you ask my opinion I would tell you that GH use can be used with very much success starting at just 1 IU a day up to like 15 IU or so per day but it greatly depends on what your goals are.

    I also have got that impression. Thanks. From doing a little bit of a research here on the site I have ended up getting the same thoughts. However there is just no experience that I can share of my own and that’s why I can’t say anything with certitude. But thanks very much for answering and helping.

    #2317

    PhilipP
    Participant

    I also want to say very much thanks for that part from someone who has more experience here * if you ask my opinion I would tell you that GH use can be used with very much success starting at just 1 IU a day up to like 15 IU or so per day but it greatly depends on what your goals are. * but being here and having some questions could you, please, tell me… do you agree with that idea that I have often heard on internet said by other people that the GH can be used anywhere up to like 5 IU without the need to add the Insulin in order to counter the increased blood sugar? I’ve often read that this is not a side effect to be worried about under the dose of 5 iu a day but it can be one when you go above it and that’s why insulin is required (at least welcome). So do you agree with the fact that anything that goes over 5 iu a day is requiring insulin?

    #2318

    Suchater
    Participant

    In the meanwhile you are getting the response from him (as I know that you haven’t asked me or anyone else but MarkuS), can I give you my opinion about this? I personally would say that in case you are planning to spend those hundreds of $ on the GH you want to take, and you are planning on using it at a dosage anywhere between moderate to high dose, then why not to use the slin? There won’t be much of a difference in money why wouldn’t you do it? an extra few quid for potentially a lot much more gains because of the synergy is also quite possibly to happen. I don’t think that adding slin to a moderate to high dose of GH isn’t going to be helpful…

    #2319

    MarkuS
    Participant

    From as much as I understand this question has been addressed to me: [quote] do you agree with that idea that I have often heard on internet said by other people that the GH can be used anywhere up to like 5 IU without the need to add the Insulin in order to counter the increased blood sugar? I’ve often read that this is not a side effect to be worried about under the dose of 5 iu a day but it can be one when you go above it and that’s why insulin is required (at least welcome). So do you agree with the fact that anything that goes over 5 iu a day is requiring insulin? [/quote]
    Am I right? Sorry if that’s not addressed to me tho but… my response would be: no! I do not agree with that thought/ idea as it is a generality. This is the reason why I am always recommending to everybody to cycle GH. But in the end of it, it again goes down to the fact to what your personal goals are… it pretty much always comes back to it.

    #2320

    EgoMuch
    Participant

    Hey there OP, I just wanted to say that I also have had some of pretty much same issues while I have been on GH so I do understand you very well. What I try to say is that I did have been on 4 iu a day of pharma GH… what I have had to do is to go from 4 iu to 2 iu a day and after that to work my way back up to 4 iu. What I try to say is that going to 4 iu a day is not that easy and you can’t just jump to that dosage, you need, as I said, to work it up. Or at least, that’s my experience and that’s what I had to do for it to make it work. If you plan to go further, you, then again, have to work it up. Like for example I plan to go further as I don’t want to stop on 4 iu a day and that’s why I plan on starting 6 iu a day on month 4. You need to do it because after some time of being on a specific dosage, many of the side effects have pretty much disappeared, or then again, at least that’s what happened to me. I did start to sleep better, although I would not call that sleep to be great, but at least, as said, better than it used to be so that’s already fine. I have to add here that besides the fact that the side effects in time should go away, I have also been using 500 mg of magnesium plus 750 mg of gaba, those ones have really helped me very much for my sleep. Not sure if that would be a good idea to recommend you doing the same but you could, at least try it out and see how well it helps you. Also as you, I also had joint and muscle pains and for these I have found out the relief from the diet/ water changes and from using some mild anti inflammatories as well as NPP @ 50 mg EOD. And that’s something that I can recommend you as well because I know how bad it can be. or then again, at least for me those pains were really really bad because literally, I have reached one point when the muscle pain has been just unbearable, it has been so so bad that I have been thinking that the only way of escaping the pain was to tear my biceps up… and that recommendation I just wrote up there made it all so much better that now I am having no more pains! I really hope a lot that this is going to help you because all of this has really helped me very much. I know how bad the struggle can be but I hope that these solutions that worked for me would help you exactly as much.
    But yeah, I need to ask you a question… what time do you pin? I think that this is very important.
    Gotta say that with any dosage that is above of 4 iu per day then there are some people who are saying that splitting the dosage is helping very and very much with the side effects and that’s why many of them split them up (equally, of course). So far I have not yet tried this myself, however when I am going to go from 4 iu to 6 iu a day then I will surely split it up and see if there are going to be any changes etc. again, hopefully this is going to be helpful to you.

    #2321

    PhilipP
    Participant

    EgoMuch, thank you very much for answering. I am definitely going to think about your words.
    But I also wanted to say something about this *I personally would say that in case you are planning to spend those hundreds of $ on the GH you want to take, and you are planning on using it at a dosage anywhere between moderate to high dose, then why not to use the slin? There won’t be much of a difference in money why wouldn’t you do it? an extra few quid for potentially a lot much more gains because of the synergy is also quite possibly to happen. I don’t think that adding slin to a moderate to high dose of GH isn’t going to be helpful… * and that’s that I am never going to try it myself. Think whatever you want but I really scared of touching it! I did heard of it, of course, and I have read horror stories of some people becoming handicapped for their life (or some of them even dying) after having used it. I mean, that’s definitely not worth it and the risks, at least for me, are damn too high so no, I will stay away from it.

    #2322

    Suchater
    Participant

    You know… that’s fair enough the part where you said that you are scared of it: [quote] I am never going to try it myself. Think whatever you want but I really scared of touching it! I did heard of it, of course, and I have read horror stories of some people becoming handicapped for their life (or some of them even dying) after having used it. I mean, that’s definitely not worth it and the risks, at least for me, are damn too high so no, I will stay away from it. [/quote]
    However, I just wanted to say that in my direct experience with this stuff… it is pretty much hard to f*ck up with it. I don’t want to say that it is impossible or anything in this matter, but I think that you must kind of ‘try’ to f*ck up… you need to use either unbelievable amounts or I don’t know… whichever the case, I do understand where you’re coming from, I perfectly realize what you are trying to say and what’s your point so I don’t want to make you change your mind.

    #2323

    EgoMuch
    Participant

    Umm… I just wanted to ask you in regards to that… is there some kind of a protocol for use that is being accepted to be safe and moderate or something?? If there is one, of course, please share it with us… also I wanted to ask… is there any way to test the insulin sensitivity in order to determine a need?? I would really like to know. I have wondered about throwing slin in as well as t3 due to the fact that I do understand GH can lower thyroid hormone, however I am being really scared of screwing up my natural production of the insulin and of t3. If you know a safe way of doing that then I would really appreciate sharing some info.. but if there is no information on how to do it safely then… how people do it at all?? thanks!

    #2324

    Suchater
    Participant

    So well, look… the simplest and in my opinion also the safest way it is a shot of slin post workout! And pay attention, just one single shot, you need to start it all slowly, at a low dose (one shot!) in the time that you are at home and you can consume your post workout carbs and proteins. I do not ascribe to a ratio of the carbs to slin. But you just need to start is low and to make sure that you consume your regular post workout meal/ shake that should be full of the usual lots of carbs and protein. And along that you need to take a shot of the GH pre workout and in my opinion you are all good to go. As I said, this is the simplest and in my opinion the safest way and this so simple approach is not going to give you any kind of insane gains, however this is a start and it is going to massively help your recovery and it is going to get you used to the entire process. Again, you won’t see insane gains, but it still helps you. I think that sometime later, after you would already get used to this protocol, then you could go further and experiment with some other protocols that might be considered to be a little bit more risky such as pre workout slin or the longer acting slin with the short added to meals. But anyway, so far you don’t need these and for simplicity I just think that you need to stick with the above in case you want to start with it.
    As for the part of the insulin sensitivity then I would only bulk coming out of a cut, and so your insulin sensitivity should be all good. in my opinion you need to bulk for a few months and after that you consider to take some steps towards readdressing slin sensitivity. Hope this is helpful.

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