what is your favorite insulin?

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  • #2742

    Fallsocring
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    Hi all, as the title says, share what it is your favorite insulin here? I think this can be pretty helpful for some people out there in finding better alternatives etc. to start off, my favorite one is Apidra. The reason is that for me, it just hits so much more faster and much harder compared to all the others that I have tried. To compared them all, I would say that the Novolog would be my second choice and the Humalog is also pretty good as it would be my third choice. Nevertheless, there’s nothing, at least so far, to beat Apidra as personally for me, even IM Humalog is not going to peak until about 2 hours or so and that’s in the time the Apidra is going to peak right at 60 minutes mark. Would be interesting in see what would other people share here.

    #2743

    J0E
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    Hey there, would like to ask you, what are the gains in the lean body mass like on Slin? Would be interested to get a response

    #2744

    Ruckman
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    to start off, my favorite one is Apidra. The reason is that for me, it just hits so much more faster and much harder compared to all the others that I have tried.

    To be honest, I really like Apidra as well, it is quite good, and to be honest, Novolog it is quite the same for me to be honest. But so far, Humalog it is what I am using right now but to be honest, that’s mostly because this is what my insurance company has agreed to cover. But yeah, as you (I can guess) I am doing most of my insulin in IM type and usually, I am able to feel the peak of them after approximately one hour (fastest), to about an hours and a half or even to 2 hours as well (the longest time), pretty much as you. I have got low the last night during my workout, not very sure but I can guess that it is because I have not drank my Gatorade as quick as I had to. To be honest, I got pretty low as I have had to sit down and to sip it and then, simply to wait for the carbs to finally hit the bloodstream so then to keep on going further.
    And by the way, in regards to this:

    Hey there, would like to ask you, what are the gains in the lean body mass like on Slin? Would be interested to get a response

    Personally for me, Slin can really help to pile on the weight, at least for me, however I have noticed that for me, if it’s on its own then it is equally anabolic for both muscle and fat tissue as well. I would say that it pairs quite well with the growth hormone due to the fact that the growth hormone is going to help with keeping it all lean and that’s in the time that the insulin is basically going to stop any and all tissue breakdown which is all very good so to my opinion it is better to give it a mix.
    But anyway, in the end, all in all, with the right diet and with some other drugs in your regimen, I really think that insulin can be very and very helpful, but that’s if using it correctly, pretty much as anything else. in fact, to be honest, I wouldn’t be really shocked at all to hear that someone could gain like 10 or maybe even some more pounds per month in the first few months of using the insulin. And yeah, I know you haven’t asked me that question but I hope this would be any helpful.

    #2745

    Fallsocring
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    Yeah, I do agree with the fact that you can gain in the first months of using it, that’s totally correct. However I have gained only 6 pounds during my first month only and after that, I still have been gaining, but much more slower since then. But yeah, as you said, I wouldn’t be surprised hearing someone did it the way you explained. I personally have stayed lean but as we all know (I guess), if you want to stay lean then you need to eat the right foods only and the right amounts during your window.

    #2746

    Uvoch
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    Hi there, to be honest here, Humulin R, by far is my favorite. Not sure if any of you have tried it but those who didn’t, I suggest to try it. not sure how for others, but for me it is doubtlessly the best! It has a longer active life so I’m anabolic that much longer! For me, Humalog simply has spiked too high but it has not been in there for long enough in order to do much good and have the benefits, but this could be only my opinion. Whatever the case, Humulin R is for me the best without any doubts as I have gained more on this product in the 2 months period that I have gained in the 4 or maybe even 5 months while I have bene on Humalog.

    #2747

    Fallsocring
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    well, I am not very sure but, it does sounds to me as if you were not actually eating enough during the active window. Not sure though, just what it seems.

    #2749

    Ruckman
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    Humulin R, by far is my favorite. Not sure if any of you have tried it but those who didn’t, I suggest to try it. not sure how for others, but for me it is doubtlessly the best! It has a longer active life so I’m anabolic that much longer!

    Hey there, I would say that the biggest advantage that the Humalin R has it is the fact that you’re able to purchase it without a prescription, something that, to my opinion, all these drugs should be.
    But something that you might need to know is the fact that the R types of insulin are taking approximately 8 hours or so to clear all the way but they are taking approximately 2 hours or so before they are going to peak. In addition to that, the peak activity window is also being open for a longer period of time as well as it is nearly 3 hours or so. It is obvious that there are advances as well and some of the advantages that the R type has is that, you can take a fat shot around 30 minutes or so before you’re going to workout, after that you can lift and drink carbs and even after that, it is pretty likely that it is still going to be in there when you’re going to be hitting the post workout meal as well. Obviously, this is all very good.
    However, simply to share my opinion, I do think that the drawback here is that the bigger the window of the insulin activity is then the more fats you’re going to be eating during this period of time, and the longer you are going to be in the anabolic state for your fat cells as well (the insulin it is preventing the breakdown of the fats). Even though pretty much depending on what else you’re being on then it may not be a very big reason for getting worried.

    #2779

    Fallsocring
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    Yeah, I do 100% agree with the previous poster in everything that he said, however there’s one other huge (maybe even bigger) drawback to my opinion as it is the fact that your body is not going to be producing its own insulin sooner or later if you’re going to do the R types for a longer period of time. For this reason I would stay shutdown as little as it is being possible.

    #2780

    Uvoch
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    Thanks people for sharing your opinion as it does means a lot for me, however I would like to say, in regards to this:

    well, I am not very sure but, it does sounds to me as if you were not actually eating enough during the active window. Not sure though, just what it seems.

    In fact, I was actually eating a lot! You are only able to digest and use so much at a time!
    Also wanted to say something in regards to the post of the R type insulin:
    I am going to take a little extra fa gain for more size gains to be honest. A little extra fat gain to be honest, isn’t such an huge problem, especially when daily cardio is truly helping with that!

    #2782

    Ruckman
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    In fact, I was actually eating a lot! You are only able to digest and use so much at a time!

    So well, to that end, having a longer acting insulin is going to extend that window a little bit as much as you can understand, since it is having a longer peak and a longer duration of the use either.
    Anyway, if you don’t mind me asking then, what it is your insulin regimen like with the Humalin R (or Novolin R)? I mean, some general data such as: when you were injecting it? how many units you’ve been injecting? And also, what you would eat/ were eating in order to counteract and to balance the glucose lowering effects of the humalin R?!
    One more thing here, what were the differences in the insulin protocol that you were having comparing the use of the Humalin R and the Humalin? In your opinion, were there any other variables and factors as well that might have come to play in affecting the success that you have had with the R type of the insulin? Maybe there are some other things that you could add here which could be helpful?
    Anyway, in the end I think that all of this really could turn into a pretty educational discussion for each and all of us here! hopeful to get some responses.

    #2783

    Fallsocring
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    Well, I just know there’s one very simple thing: if you are not gaining weight then you are simply not eating enough, simple as that!

    #2785

    Uvoch
    Participant

    Well, I just know there’s one very simple thing: if you are not gaining weight then you are simply not eating enough, simple as that!

    Yeah, you are definitely right on that, however just let me add *from the Humalog*
    And by the way, in regards to the last post as of:

    Anyway, in the end I think that all of this really could turn into a pretty educational discussion for each and all of us here! hopeful to get some responses.

    and all other questions I will try my best.
    I could say here that I am very experienced with both of the types of these insulin forms. This is why I am saying that Humalog has done just very little for me if comparing the effects and benefits that I have had with the Humulin R. I was not saying that Humalog is useless and it doesn’t work, it is just the fact that Humulin R is much helpful for me.
    During the time that I have been on the Humalog, the highest that I have been up to has been 14 iu pre workout, about 10 minutes or so pre work out I have been getting my shot, all along with the 4 g per iu sugar, bcaas, creatine as well as glutamine. Usually, my source for sugar has been dextrose. Intra workout, it has been 8g/ iu dextrose, bcaas, creatine as well as glutamine. The post workout has been pretty much the same but only with the exception that I was having a lot much less dextrose, and why added. Obviously, and as always, low fat and high carb meals I was having both pre and post workout.
    Right now, with the Humulin R, at 13 IU exactly 85 minutes (1:25H) before training. My meal consists of 96 g of carbs (14 simple), 40 grams of protein, 5 grams of fat and lastly a banana, but I am not weighing/ counting it. after that, I am having a shake with 35 g of dextrose, bcaas, creatine and glutamine exactly 15 minutes before my workout and intra workout I am getting the exact same shake. And as I said earlier, after my workout, I am having the exact same shake but with a little less sugar and with whey added. Getting home as soon as I finish my workout and I have my meal as soon as I get home with about 90 g carbs!
    All in all I can say with certitude that I am having far much better results with humulin R. in fact, I can say that Humalog has been only an intermediary in order to get to the thing that it is really working and is actually giving me lots of benefits: Humulin R. to be honest, I am actually considering to use an even longer acting Slin if there is one out there, however my days right now are simply too short for this thing right now.

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